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babass
Post subject: [Résolu] HP vectra 386/20n ne démarre pas
Posted: 03 February, 12:45
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Bonjour à tous, on m'a récemment donné un HP vectra 386/20n. Son alimentation propriétaire fonctionne toujours (pour combien de temps ?) et l'ordinateur s'allume. Le BIOS m'indique 4 codes d'erreur:
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Dont un qui je suppose à un rapport avec l'horloge, mais je ne trouve pas ce que les autres signifient...
Bon, je vais dans le BIOS, le HDD et le lecteur de disquette sont reconnus, je valide les paramètres, la machine redémarre, toujours les codes d'erreur, je fais F1 pour continuer...
J'ai ça:
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Et ça s'arrête là, l'ordi ne cherche pas dans le lecteur de disquette ni dans le disque dur, il ne se passe rien, juste ce message.
Voilà comment sont fichus les DIP switches de la carte mère:
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Bref une idée ? Déjà je trouve bizarre la prise d'alimentation du lecteur de disquette n'a pas le fil jaune du +12v, il n'est alimenté qu'en 5V, mais au démarrage il seek quand même... Normal ?
Merci pour votre aide.

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Deksor
Post subject: Re: HP vectra 386/20n ne démarre pas
Posted: 03 February, 12:55
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Serait-il possible d'avoir plus de photos de la machine ? Comment est alimenté la mémoire du bios ? Par une pile ? Une batterie ?

Pour le lecteur, ils ont peut-être un autre code couleur ?


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babass
Post subject: Re: HP vectra 386/20n ne démarre pas
Posted: 03 February, 13:11
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Voilà tout:
La pile du BIOS est externe alimenté par une petite pile 4.5V:
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Connecteur de la pile:
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La pile est fichue, testé avec un voltmètre.
Alimentation du Lecteur Disquette:
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Après avoir réglé la date:
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Sauf qu'en retournant dans le BIOS la date se remet en 1992:
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Post subject: Re: HP vectra 386/20n ne démarre pas
Posted: 03 February, 13:12
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Voilà ce que je trouve avec le premier code d'erreur 04C0 :
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0240, 0241

The information stored in CMOS memory is incorrect.

Probable location: the clear configuration switch on the system board is in the "ON" position or the CMOS memory on the system board is not working properly.

Action(s):

Set the clear configuration switch located on the system board to "OFF" if it is not already in that position.

Set the date and time with the EISA Configuration Utility. To do this, insert the Vectra #1 diskette in drive A now BEFORE you press <Continue=F1>. Next, press <F1> to continue starting (booting) your computer.

You can set the date and time through the System Administration Manager in the EISA Configuration Utility.

Restore your computer's configuration by loading a backup SCI (System Configuration Information) file.

You can load a backup SCI file through the System Administration Manager in the EISA Configuration Utility.

If the problem persists, examine the system board and replace it if it is defective.
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Puis 02C0
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HP Vectra 486U PC - Error Messages
SECURITY: PUBLIC
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ERROR MESSAGES
The following messages are displayed when the built-in diagnostics find an error or problem during system startup. An "x" in an error code equals any number between 0-9, or A, B, C, D, or F for all error codes.

For other error messages that do not appear here, refer to the operating system manual, the application manual, or the peripheral manual.

Format: Number, explanation of message, probable location of the problem, possible actions.

00Ax, 00Bx

The contents of ROM (Read-Only-Memory) on an accessory board have been corrupted (checksum error).

Probable location: Configuration of an accessory board that is using a memory address between D0000H and DFFFFH, or that the accessory board is defective.

Action(s):

If you have recently installed an accessory board, use the EISA Configuration Utility to make sure that the board is not using a memory address that is already in use by another accessory board. If it is using the same address, select a different address for one of the accessory boards.

Replace the ROM on your accessory board or option ROM board (or replace the entire board) with one you know is functioning correctly.

00Cx,00Dx

The contents of ROM (Read-Only-Memory) on an accessory board have been corrupted (checksum error).

Probable location: Configuration of an accessory board that is using a memory address between E0000H and EFFFFH, or that the accessory board is defective.

Action(s):

If you have recently installed an accessory board, use the EISA Configuration Utility to make sure that the board is not using a memory address that is already in use by another accessory board. If it is using the same address, select a different address for one of the accessory boards.

Replace the ROM on your accessory board or option ROM board (or replace the entire board) with one you know is functioning correctly.

008x

The contents of your computer's video ROM (Read-Only-Memory) have been corrupted (checksum error).

Probable location:

If you are using the video that is built into your computer's system board, the built-in video ROM has been corrupted.

If you are using an accessory video board (you have disabled the built-in video), the video ROM on the accessory board has been corrupted.

Action(s):

If you are using the video that is built into your computer's system board, have your authorized service representative examine the ROM on the system board and replace it if it is defective.

If you are using an accessory video board, replace that video board with a video board you know is functioning correctly.

009x

The contents of ROM (Read-Only-Memory) on an accessory board have been corrupted (checksum error).

Probable location: Configuration on an accessory board that is using a memory address between C8000H and CFFFFH, or that accessory board is defective.

Action(s):

If you have recently installed an accessory board, use the EISA Configuration Utility to make sure that the board is not using a memory address that is already in use by another accessory board. If it is using the same address, select a different address for one of the accessory boards.

Replace the ROM on your accessory board or option ROM board (or replace the entire board) with one you know is functioning correctly.

0111x,0120

The real time clock (the internal clock that keeps track of the date and time) is not working properly.

Probable location: real time clock on system board.

Action(s):

Have your authorized service representative examine your system board and replace it if it is defective.

0130

The real time clock (the internal clock that keeps track of the date and time) shows incorrect time and date information.

NOTE: THIS MAY OCCUR WHEN TURNING ON YOUR NEW COMPUTER FOR THE FIRST TIME.
Probable location: the real time clock on the system board has not been set, or the date and time information was erased by the clear configuration switch, or your computer has been disconnected from AC power for an extended period, or the real time clock is not working properly.

Action(s):

Set the date and time with the EISA Configuration Utility. To do this, insert the Vectra #1 diskette in drive A now BEFORE you press <Continue=F1>. Next, press <F1> to continue starting (booting) your computer.

You can set the date and time through the System Administration Manager in the EISA Configuration Utility.

If the problem persists, and your computer has not been connected to an AC power outlet for an extended period of time, you need to recharge the power source that runs the real time clock.

Leave your computer connected to the power outlet to store power to run the real time clock. (You may continue to use your computer while it is charging.)

For maximum charge, leave the computer connected for 6 days. (It is not necessary to leave the computer turned on in order to store power.)

If the previous steps do not resolve the problem, have your authorized service representative examine your system board and replace it if it is defective.

0240, 0241

The information stored in CMOS memory is incorrect.

Probable location: the clear configuration switch on the system board is in the "ON" position or the CMOS memory on the system board is not working properly.

Action(s):

Set the clear configuration switch located on the system board to "OFF" if it is not already in that position.

Set the date and time with the EISA Configuration Utility. To do this, insert the Vectra #1 diskette in drive A now BEFORE you press <Continue=F1>. Next, press <F1> to continue starting (booting) your computer.

You can set the date and time through the System Administration Manager in the EISA Configuration Utility.

Restore your computer's configuration by loading a backup SCI (System Configuration Information) file.

You can load a backup SCI file through the System Administration Manager in the EISA Configuration Utility.

If the problem persists, examine the system board and replace it if it is defective.

0250

The record of your configuration that is saved in CMOS memory does not match the components that are installed in your computer.

Probable location: configuration or the system board.

Action(s):

Make sure that everything you have installed in your computer shows up in the configuration information. (If it does not, you should add it to the configuration at this time.)

To check the configuration, insert the Vectra #1 diskette in drive A now BEFORE you press <Continue=F1>. Next, press <F1> to continue starting (booting)your computer.

You can check your computer's configuration through the System Administration Manager in the EISA Configuration Utility.

If the previous step does not resolve the problem, have your authorized service representative examine your system board and replace it if it is defective.

0280, 0282

Information about your computer's configuration (stored in the CMOS or EEPROM memory) has been corrupted.

Probable location: The configuration information has not been set, or was erased by setting the clear configuration switch on the system board, or the CMOS or EEPROM memory on the system board is not working properly.

Action(s):

Set the clear configuration switch located on the system board to "OFF" if it is not already in that position.

Set the date and time with the EISA Configuration Utility. To do this, insert the Vectra #1 diskette in drive A now BEFORE you press <Continue=F1>. Next, press <F1> to continue starting (booting) your computer.

You can set the date and time through the System Administration Manager in the EISA Configuration Utility.

Restore your computer's configuration by loading a backup SCI (System Configuration Information) file.

You can load a backup SCI file through the System Administration Manager in the EISA Configuration Utility.

If the problem persists, have your authorized service representative examine your system board and replace it if it is defective.

02C0

Information about your computer's configuration that is stored in the EEPROM memory has not been set or was corrupted.

Probable location: The configuration information has not been set, or was erased by setting the clear configuration switch on the system board, or the CMOS memory on the system board is not working properly.

Action(s):

Set the clear configuration switch located on the system board to "OFF" if it is not already in that position.

Set the date and time with the EISA Configuration Utility. To do this, insert the Vectra #1 diskette in drive A now BEFORE you press <Continue=F1>. Next, press <F1> to continue starting (booting) your computer.

You can set the date and time through the System Administration Manager in the EISA Configuration Utility.

Restore your computer's configuration by loading a backup SCI (System Configuration Information) file.

You can load a backup SCI file through the System Administration Manager in the EISA Configuration Utility.

If the problem persists, have your authorized service representative examine your system board and replace it if it is defective."
Grosso-modo, y a un cavalier à mettre sur "off", mais après ça parle de disquette qui contient un utilitaire nommé "EISA Configuration Utility"

Je te laisse chercher les autres codes d'erreur sur cette page :
http://support.hpe.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=bpv01592

ça n'a pas l'air d'être exactement le même ordinateur mais ça semble être "pareil".

Pour la pile, peut-être qu'une pile lambda à 4,5V suffirait si tu l'adaptes pour la brancher?

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Post subject: Re: HP vectra 386/20n ne démarre pas
Posted: 03 February, 13:17
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Je pense que c'est un de ces ordis qui a besoin d'avoir sa pile en permanence


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Post subject: Re: HP vectra 386/20n ne démarre pas
Posted: 03 February, 13:41
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Bon, j'ai essayé de remplacer la pile par un gros condo chargé à 4,5V, ça change rien. J'ai essayé de remettre tous les jumpers sur Off... miracle, ça marche... un peu mieux on va dire.
L'ordi boot sur le HDD sans problème, mais pas sur disquette. Quand j'essaie d'accéder au lecteur de disquette la LED du lecteur ne s'allume pas et j'ai une erreur positionnement des têtes je crois. J'ai essayé de changer de lecteur, rien.
Pourtant au démarrage le lecteur seek et sa LED s'allume. Pourtant je suis sur que c'est un connecteur d'alim pour lecteur disquette, car il n'y a que 2 connecteurs qui sortent (en plus de celui de la carte mère) et l'autre c'est un molex pour le HDD.


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babass
Post subject: Re: HP vectra 386/20n ne démarre pas
Posted: 03 February, 13:54
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Problème résolu, le contrôleur de disquette n'a pas besoin qu'il y ait un swap sur la nappe...


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Posted: 05 February, 21:23
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Oh, ce bios à l'air relativement moderne pour un 386. Pas trop mal.

Comme dit deksor, je commencerais pas remplacer la pile. Un boistier en plastique qui utilise 3 piles AA fera le taf et ça couste rien. Ou un super condo si t'en a un.
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le contrôleur de disquette n'a pas besoin qu'il y ait un swap sur la nappe
Intéressant. Moi qui croyais que y'avait eu que tandy qui avait fait ça.

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Post subject: Re: HP vectra 386/20n ne démarre pas
Posted: 05 February, 21:49
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Commence par changer la pile, (3 piles AA de 1,5 volts montées en série feront l'affaire) si le bios n'enregistre pas les données.

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babass
Post subject: Re: HP vectra 386/20n ne démarre pas
Posted: 07 February, 14:12
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Nintenloup wrote: *  05 February, 21:23
Oh, ce bios à l'air relativement moderne pour un 386. Pas trop mal.
Intéressant. Moi qui croyais que y'avait eu que tandy qui avait fait ça.
Le PC date de 1992 il me semble (ça fait tard pour un 386-20, non ?).
Pour la nappe si je met le swap le lecteur seek au démarrage mais n'est pas accessible sous DOS en faisant a: mais j'ai pas essayé b:. Il est physiquement possible de monter 2 lecteurs de disquette dans la machine mais il n'y a qu'un connecteur d'alimentation qui sort de la PSU...
Pour le BIOS qui n'enregistre rien c'était surement du à un problème de DIP switch mal positionnés. Je verrais bien en rentrant si ça marche toujours.


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